KUBB value of a season

[KUTradition]

why do I care what Trae Young thinks?

^^^^^^^^^

Bill cared. A lot.

but only while recruiting him, right?

[CrimsonNBlue]

^^^^^^^^^

Bill cared. A lot.

but only while recruiting him, right?

That's the context of the quote, though. KU has to have several different messages depending on the audience.

It's hard to fathom, but the majority of the student body has no independent memory of Mario Chalmers and the 2008 team. Certainly no recruit does either. KUBB is in the business of recruiting future first team AA's and NBA All-Stars--they want to hear about Joel Embiid, not Nick Collison, not Sherron Collins, not Phog Allen.

[KUTradition]

Bill cared. A lot.

but only while recruiting him, right?

That's the context of the quote, though. KU has to have several different messages depending on the audience.

It's hard to fathom, but the majority of the student body has no independent memory of Mario Chalmers and the 2008 team. Certainly no recruit does either. KUBB is in the business of recruiting future first team AA's and NBA All-Stars--they want to hear about Joel Embiid, not Nick Collison, not Sherron Collins, not Phog Allen.

do you have any proof of this?

i’m not saying you’re necessarily wrong, but those statements sure seem to be awfully speculatory

you’re insinuating that no top recruits have any knowledge of the history of the game

[KUTradition]

and i couldn’t care less about the current student body…

[CrimsonNBlue]

but only while recruiting him, right?

That's the context of the quote, though. KU has to have several different messages depending on the audience.

It's hard to fathom, but the majority of the student body has no independent memory of Mario Chalmers and the 2008 team. Certainly no recruit does either. KUBB is in the business of recruiting future first team AA's and NBA All-Stars--they want to hear about Joel Embiid, not Nick Collison, not Sherron Collins, not Phog Allen.

do you have any proof of this?

i’m not saying you’re necessarily wrong, but those statements sure seem to be awfully speculatory

you’re insinuating that no top recruits have any knowledge of the history of the game

Well I'm not a scientist, but I understand that today's recruits would have been 2-3 years old in 2008.

[CrimsonNBlue]

and i couldn’t care less about the current student body…

That's fine, but understand that the recruits/players have way more in common with the student body than they do with you or me. It's pretty easy to see why that is a more important demographic for the program and product.

[MICHHAWK]

as a fan, i hardly remember joel embiids time as a JAYHAWK. as a JAYHAWK he is a minor blip. he played 3/4's of one season as a JAYHAWK.

he may be an mvp 76'er. he is a minor JAYHAWK.

[NDballer13]

This reminds me of a thread I saw on either Facebook or Twitter a few weeks back about if you would want Bronny James to pick your school. The overwhelming majority was a no, with an even higher majority of the reasoning being not liking his dad.

A good amount of your fanbase might not like LeBron hanging around campus or in the facilities, but guess who would? That 16, 17, 18 yr old kid you're trying to convince to come to your school.

[KUTradition]

and i couldn’t care less about the current student body…

That's fine, but understand that the recruits/players have way more in common with the student body than they do with you or me. It's pretty easy to see why that is a more important demographic for the program and product.

that may be, but we’re talking about fans generally…not KU fans specifically, and certainly not fans that are members of the student body

and i could be completely wrong here, but i would imagine that a recruit would have a better understanding of the history of the game than a random student fan…many of whom attend games more as a social event than for some innate love of the game

[hasbeen]

as a fan, i hardly remember joel embiids time as a JAYHAWK. as a JAYHAWK he is a minor blip. he played 3/4's of one season as a JAYHAWK.

he may be an mvp 76'er. he is a minor JAYHAWK.

lol

[CrimsonNBlue]

and i couldn’t care less about the current student body…

That's fine, but understand that the recruits/players have way more in common with the student body than they do with you or me. It's pretty easy to see why that is a more important demographic for the program and product.

that may be, but we’re talking about fans generally…not KU fans specifically, and certainly not fans that are members of the student body

and i could be completely wrong here, but i would imagine that a recruit would have a better understanding of the history of the game than a random student fan…many of whom attend games more as a social event than for some innate love of the game

I brought up the students in the Trae Young comment context.

As far as recruits caring more about the history of the game than the students, I don't know, as you said it would be speculating either way. I do think that's what we would like to think about them, but not sure that it is actually true. I can say that I am personally much more romantic about basketball and its history now than I was at the age of 18.

[Sparko]

as a fan, i hardly remember joel embiids time as a JAYHAWK. as a JAYHAWK he is a minor blip. he played 3/4's of one season as a JAYHAWK.

he may be an mvp 76'er. he is a minor JAYHAWK.

To me though, Joel without Bill and KU would be out of basketball. One of those symbiotic miracles. And the Pittman take down was never punished.

[KUTradition]

I can say that I am personally much more romantic about basketball and its history now than I was at the age of 18.

this is a good point

my knee-jerk reaction is to say this isn’t the case for me, but i’d have to reflect on it

i can say without a doubt, that despite growing up with b-ball being my primary sport of choice (also playing football and baseball), my love of the game amplified a ton after moving to Lawrence at the age of 10

that proximity undoubtedly biases my perspective

[Sparko]

KU bb fans use "we" and "us" to talk about the team more than other schools. I remember being interviewed by a sociologist on the playground once as a kid about it. Random event, but we were pretending to be KU and he bolted over to help pump up his thesis work. KUBB runs deep.

[CrimsonNBlue]

This reminds me of a thread I saw on either Facebook or Twitter a few weeks back about if you would want Bronny James to pick your school. The overwhelming majority was a no, with an even higher majority of the reasoning being not liking his dad.

A good amount of your fanbase might not like LeBron hanging around campus or in the facilities, but guess who would? That 16, 17, 18 yr old kid you're trying to convince to come to your school.

It seems to me that so much of LeBron's decisions/moves over the past few years have been made with profit and his brand as the major influences in those decisions/moves. So, I think I'd rather not have the program being used in that way.

Now, in a perfect world where Bronny comes to KU, is a team player within the program, and LeBron keeps the meddling to a minimum, then I can absolutely see the tremendous value of having LeBron tied to the program even though I'm not a fan of his.

[pdub]

I think there's a better chance you know about Kansas basketball and Mario Chalmers if you're a high school basketball recruit than some random student out there because of your involvement in the sport.

[Deleted User 863]

Devonte Graham is in Lawrence this week/weekend. Svi probably will make an appearance.

Our NBA guys are coming in when the team is out of town? Not doubting, cool deal if so.

Devonte had a picture on social media yesterday inside our practice facility

[Deleted User 863]

Joel and Wiggs will eventually have jerseys in the rafters. Rightfully so

Wiggins might. Embiid won't.

[CrimsonNBlue]

Devonte Graham is in Lawrence this week/weekend. Svi probably will make an appearance.

Our NBA guys are coming in when the team is out of town? Not doubting, cool deal if so.

Devonte had a picture on social media yesterday inside our practice facility

And then made it to New Orleans for an evening game?

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401360705

[pdub]

Joel and Wiggs will eventually have jerseys in the rafters. Rightfully so

Wiggins might. Embiid won't.

25% chance on Wiggs.
5% chance on Embiid.