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Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:56 pm
by KUTradition
pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 3:35 pm
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/377 ... -not-money
Ever since signing what at the time was the richest contract in NFL history, Patrick Mahomes has watched as his annual pay slipped to seventh among the league's quarterbacks.
Mahomes indicated Wednesday after the Chiefs concluded their first week of offseason practice that he didn't find this development troubling.
"I've always said I worry about legacy and winning rings more than making money at this moment," he said. "We see what's going on around the league, but at the same time,
I'll never do anything that's going to hurt us from keeping the great players around me. So it's kind of teetering around that line."
That's what Tom did. Be like Tom. Except eat strawberries and hamburgers and drink beer.
i thought i’d seen this posted (but couldn’t find it)
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:53 pm
by pdub
Which teams should target Hopkins:
Kansas City Chiefs
This is a similar outlook to Buffalo, a contending team with a high-level young passer and, on paper, has a receiver need and has been linked to Hopkins in recent months. To mild surprise, I haven't gotten the sense Kansas City is desperate for receiver help. The Chiefs believe Kadarius Toney can be the No. 1. The sliding scale on which Kansas City is willing to pay hinges partly on the faith in second-round picks Skyy Moore (2022) and Rashee Rice (2023). And like with Buffalo, cap space is a problem for the Chiefs, who enter the weekend with $1.6 million.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/ ... ity-chiefs
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 6:38 pm
by twocoach
pdub wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:53 pm
Which teams should target Hopkins:
Kansas City Chiefs
This is a similar outlook to Buffalo, a contending team with a high-level young passer and, on paper, has a receiver need and has been linked to Hopkins in recent months. To mild surprise, I haven't gotten the sense Kansas City is desperate for receiver help. The Chiefs believe Kadarius Toney can be the No. 1. The sliding scale on which Kansas City is willing to pay hinges partly on the faith in second-round picks Skyy Moore (2022) and Rashee Rice (2023). And like with Buffalo, cap space is a problem for the Chiefs, who enter the weekend with $1.6 million.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/ ... ity-chiefs
KC would have to get the Chris Jones contract extension done to be able to fit Hopkins under the cap. Not impossible but I think signing him is unlikely.
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 6:53 pm
by pdub
I agree.
Though they could, once again, rework Mahomes’ contract.
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 2:13 pm
by ChicagoHawk
pdub wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:53 pm
I agree.
Though they could, once again, rework Mahomes’ contract.
Whether or not they can get Jones’ deal done, I think it’s worth restructuring more of Mahomes’ money to land Hopkins.
I don’t think some people have internalized the degree to which Mahomes contract allows them to restructure every year with minimal consequences.
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 6:20 pm
by pdub
It’s a pretty sharp deal for everyone.
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 2:52 pm
by pdub
OK Boyd.
Now do Patrick Mahomes who played through his injury.
"Still to this day, I feel like if I would have played the whole game, I was the key factor," Boyd said. "We would've won the game."
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/377 ... fs-healthy
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:55 pm
by pdub
Frank Clark signs with the Broncos.
Was an awful contract and a bad decision to trade for him but we were helped in the playoffs where we won Super Bowls with his aggression.
I think we would have been better without him with the draft capital and more importantly the cap space but can’t change the past.
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:20 pm
by randylahey
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:00 pm
by Sparko
That was always a looming danger with Hill. Kind of a rage machine without careful intervention.
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:03 am
by pdub
Herbert signed for a lot of money.
When I see records like these, while I know they are factually correct, I kinda smirk.
“ The record for most passing yards through a player's first three NFL seasons? That belongs to Herbert with 14,089.
The only player in NFL history to throw for 4,000 yards in each of his first three seasons? Herbert.
Joining Hall of Fame quarterback Peyton Manning as the only other quarterback to pass for 25 touchdowns in each of his first three NFL seasons? Yes, it's Herbert.”
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/380 ... -really-on
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:10 am
by japhy
The one stat out there that tops them all.
Of the top 10 salary QBs playing, only Mahomes (8th place) has two super bowl rings.
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:52 am
by Sparko
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:03 am
Herbert signed for a lot of money.
When I see records like these, while I know they are factually correct, I kinda smirk.
“ The record for most passing yards through a player's first three NFL seasons? That belongs to Herbert with 14,089.
The only player in NFL history to throw for 4,000 yards in each of his first three seasons? Herbert.
Joining Hall of Fame quarterback Peyton Manning as the only other quarterback to pass for 25 touchdowns in each of his first three NFL seasons? Yes, it's Herbert.”
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/380 ... -really-on
Man. They have to contort around Mahomes. But Mahomes also won more games his first three years sitting out all but one game in season one.
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:17 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:03 am
by ChicagoHawk
Never worth putting too much stock into these
early camp reports, but good to read that the coaching staff seems to like what Rice, Ross, and Prince are doing so far.
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:00 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:23 pm
by pdub
Hard Knocks is just difficult for me not to watch.
I’m watching.
Also Garrett, Lazard and Mecole is a pretty legit 3.
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:07 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Fields > Mahomes!
Bears Super Bowl!
Ok, being serious. Nice for Fields that he was 3-3 for 129 yards and 2TD.
His 62 yard TD to Moore was basically all YAC
His 56 yard TD to Herbert was basically all YAC
His 11 yard pass to Blasingame was some YAC
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 7:35 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Re: NFL Offseason 2023
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:40 pm
by pdub
Disaster for San Fran.
A 4th?
From a decent team?
But also, if you’re Tampa or Carolina or Atlanta ( hi NFC South ) or Denver or a number of other teams with a 4th more valuable than the Cowboys, why aren’t you taking a shot on Lance?