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Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:20 am
by Shirley
japhy wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:37 am Lil Bobby, picking off some of the crazy vote.

https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/the ... l-contest/

The fact that the Rs didn't see this coming when they started promoting Crazy Lil Bobby as a candidate shows how desperate they are in their effort to prop up trumplethinskin. The R "brain trust" is down to just the bat shit crazy now.
It's especially hilarious after all the support RFK Jr got from a wide array of weirdos, traitors, and fascists like Alex Jones, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Steve Bannon, Elon Musk, Jack Dorsey, Joe Rogan, Jordon Peterson, Megyn Kelly, Russell Brand and venture capitalists David Sacks, Jason Calacanis, Chamath Palihapitiya and David Friedberg.

I love it:

Kennedy’s presence in the contest makes the race competitive among independents who break 34% for Trump, 33% for Biden, and 29% for Kennedy.

With Kennedy in the race, Biden’s support dips 5 percentage points among Democrats while Trump loses 10 points among Republicans.

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:26 am
by Sparko
To make it seem like Kennedy was viable, they had to push him nonstop with the MAGA. They destroyed the village to save it.

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:40 am
by ousdahl
22% overall!

Plurality of independents!

Leading choice for young voters!

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/0 ... p-00124855

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:11 am
by Sparko
An uninformed electorate

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:15 am
by JKLivin
Sparko wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:11 am An uninformed electorate
Or, an electorate that has been repeatedly lied to and let down by the establishment.

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:50 pm
by jfish26
Can you identify what you would call material lies of the Biden administration? Because it sure feels to me like perception and reality are way out of alignment.

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:11 pm
by JKLivin
jfish26 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:50 pm Can you identify what you would call material lies of the Biden administration? Because it sure feels to me like perception and reality are way out of alignment.
We have been told that the economy is great. Lie.
We have been told that money going to Ukraine is necessary. Lie.
We have been told that the border is secure and that illegal immigration is not a problem. Lie.

I could go on.

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:11 pm
by ousdahl
His border policy is so literally Trump 2.0 that it manages to shit all over both immigrants AND the environment

His climate agenda has largely been a massive handout to big oil

He threw more money at policing mostly without actually addressing policing reform

His foreign policy is only getting more and more and more (like W/Dick levels of!) hawkish

He gave lip service to raising the minimum wage but it still hasn’t budged

He signed a bill to make rail strikes illegal (but at least staged a pep rally for auto strikes!)

He sat idly in the big chair while Roe was gutted

IMHO his ace in the hole might very well be weed reform, but so far his initiatives toward that have been mostly just performative

Among other concerns…

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:05 pm
by Shirley
Yeah, I'll never forgive Biden for not vetoing the SCOTUS decision on Roe.

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:18 pm
by DCHawk1
Shirley wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:05 pm Yeah, I'll never forgive Biden for not vetoing the SCOTUS decision on Roe.
Oh yeah? Well, I'll never forgive Americans who are pissed at "the establishment" and have decided that the solution to their problems is a Kennedy.

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:04 pm
by Overlander
DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:18 pm
Shirley wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:05 pm Yeah, I'll never forgive Biden for not vetoing the SCOTUS decision on Roe.
Oh yeah? Well, I'll never forgive Americans who are pissed at "the establishment" and have decided that the solution to their problems is a Kennedy.
This

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:13 pm
by JKLivin
ousdahl wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:11 pm His border policy is so literally Trump 2.0 that it manages to shit all over both immigrants AND the environment

His climate agenda has largely been a massive handout to big oil

He threw more money at policing mostly without actually addressing policing reform

His foreign policy is only getting more and more and more (like W/Dick levels of!) hawkish

He gave lip service to raising the minimum wage but it still hasn’t budged

He signed a bill to make rail strikes illegal (but at least staged a pep rally for auto strikes!)

He sat idly in the big chair while Roe was gutted

IMHO his ace in the hole might very well be weed reform, but so far his initiatives toward that have been mostly just performative

Among other concerns…
You do realize that Brandon was the one who let Remain in Mexico expire, right?

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:35 pm
by Sparko
Republicans govern trying to prevent Biden from being successful while pointing to their success at making failure as Biden's fault. Divided government follies.

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:46 pm
by JKLivin
Sparko wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:35 pm Republicans govern trying to prevent Biden from being successful while pointing to their success at making failure as Biden's fault. Divided government follies.
Lulz. If only.

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:08 pm
by Overlander
Sparko wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:35 pm Republicans govern trying to prevent Biden from being successful while pointing to their success at making failure as Biden's fault. Divided government follies.
100%

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:17 am
by JKLivin
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/43 ... n-a-panic/

“The truth is that Kennedy is connecting on the issues. With an exploding debt and a faltering economy, the U.S. is now being dragged into enormous, open-ended military commitments in two major world conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, while our own borders and our citizens experience unprecedented levels of insecurity.

In this tumultuous environment, RFK Jr. has effectively positioned himself as the peace candidate, even over Trump, since Kennedy’s critique of the military-industrial complex driving U.S. forever wars is much more cogent and comprehensive. In this tumultuous environment, RFK Jr. Alone among the candidates, he has outlined policies to address the cost-of-living and affordable housing crises that are wrecking opportunity for Gen Z and younger Millennials. In fact, this probably helps explain his significant lead among that crucial demographic.“

This summarizes why RFK is popular:

He is listening rather than talking over voters.

He is offering solutions rather than telling voters that their concerns are a figment of their imagination or a symptom of entitlement.

He is effectively setting himself up as OTHER in a world where the status quo is screwing over everyone who put their faith in the system.

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:26 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
JKLivin wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:17 am https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/43 ... n-a-panic/

“The truth is that Kennedy is connecting on the issues. With an exploding debt and a faltering economy, the U.S. is now being dragged into enormous, open-ended military commitments in two major world conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, while our own borders and our citizens experience unprecedented levels of insecurity.

In this tumultuous environment, RFK Jr. has effectively positioned himself as the peace candidate, even over Trump, since Kennedy’s critique of the military-industrial complex driving U.S. forever wars is much more cogent and comprehensive. In this tumultuous environment, RFK Jr. Alone among the candidates, he has outlined policies to address the cost-of-living and affordable housing crises that are wrecking opportunity for Gen Z and younger Millennials. In fact, this probably helps explain his significant lead among that crucial demographic.“

This summarizes why RFK is popular:

He is listening rather than talking over voters.

He is offering solutions rather than telling voters that their concerns are a figment of their imagination or a symptom of entitlement.

He is effectively setting himself up as OTHER in a world where the status quo is screwing over everyone who put their faith in the system.
I wonder how soon MORE people will realize for some valid reasons he truly is a better candidate than Biden and/or Trump.

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:28 am
by MICHHAWK
I look forward to voting for this person.

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:58 am
by JKLivin
I like him and would vote for him over Trump or Brandon.

Re: Robert f Kennedy jr

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:41 pm
by Sparko
It is that mercury in your lizard brain, crazed by innoculations, that make you yearn for the crazy Kennedy.