Ron desantis

[dolomite]

Yep, sadly 3rd party nominee will guarantee either Biden/Trump win,(4 more lousy years).

[Mjl]

Yep, sadly 3rd party nominee will guarantee either Biden/Trump win,(4 more lousy years).

And a lack of a third party candidate would guarantee...

[zsn]

Yep, sadly 3rd party nominee will guarantee either Biden/Trump win,(4 more lousy years).

And a lack of a third party candidate would guarantee...

A lack of a competent candidates in the two parties would guarantee………..

[TDub]

Yep, sadly 3rd party nominee will guarantee either Biden/Trump win,(4 more lousy years).

And a lack of a third party candidate would guarantee...

A lack of a competent candidates in the two parties would guarantee………..

the mess we're in

[Shirley]

And a lack of a third party candidate would guarantee...

A lack of a competent candidates in the two parties would guarantee………..

the mess we're in

What Biden policies do you have a problem with?

[zsn]

This ought to be good …….

[Sparko]

I am mad at the lack of chaos. I also loathe the economic stability and prosperity. And Russia on the ropes.

[TDub]

A lack of a competent candidates in the two parties would guarantee………..

the mess we're in

What Biden policies do you have a problem with?

hes an old, bumbling, senile career politician that's been in office for 40 years and accomplished nearly nothing in that time frame. Hes switched his views to align with whatever best serves himself (as most politicians do) multiple times. He is neither, aggressive, nor intelligent, nor charismatic enough to steer the country through these rapids. He is not the man fit for the job....he wasn't when he was 40 hes not when hes nearly 80.

[Mjl]

I am mad at the lack of chaos. I also loathe the economic stability and prosperity. And Russia on the ropes.

Economic stability? Market is flat, inflation is high, real wages have been down the majority of his term, home and car buying are difficult due to interest rates, the FDIC has had to break its own rules to bail out depositors with failed banks... should I go on?

[Shirley]

the mess we're in

What Biden policies do you have a problem with?

hes an old, bumbling, senile career politician that's been in office for 40 years and accomplished nearly nothing in that time frame. Hes switched his views to align with whatever best serves himself (as most politicians do) multiple times. He is neither, aggressive, nor intelligent, nor charismatic enough to steer the country through these rapids. He is not the man fit for the job....he wasn't when he was 40 hes not when hes nearly 80.

I originally worded the question to ask about which of Biden's policies you had a problem with, but based on your previous comments, wondered if, without my prompting, you'd list any.

Thanks for answering that question.

If not Biden, then which democrat, because of their vitality and policies, do you think democrats should run instead, that you think can win in 2024?

[japhy]

If not Biden, then which democrat, because of their vitality and policies, do you think democrats should run instead, that you think can win in 2024?

As I get ready for my transition from Methzoorah to Colorful Colorado residency, I am paying more attention to this dude. There seems to be a lot to like about the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoeXG-81gn4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5an0NVStiSs

[Shirley]

Polis is Jewish.

[TDub]

What Biden policies do you have a problem with?

hes an old, bumbling, senile career politician that's been in office for 40 years and accomplished nearly nothing in that time frame. Hes switched his views to align with whatever best serves himself (as most politicians do) multiple times. He is neither, aggressive, nor intelligent, nor charismatic enough to steer the country through these rapids. He is not the man fit for the job....he wasn't when he was 40 hes not when hes nearly 80.

I originally worded the question to ask about which of Biden's policies you had a problem with, but based on your previous comments, wondered if, without my prompting, you'd list any.

Thanks for answering that question.

If not Biden, then which democrat, because of their vitality and policies, do you think democrats should run instead, that you think can win in 2024?

I need to do some more research to answer that with any real intelligence. but....Pete would be a much better choice than Biden

[zsn]

TDub- Do you know who was the highest ranking official holding elected office that came out in favor of same-gender marriage? At a time when everyone, including Obama, was very cautious in how they phrased any response!

[TDub]

TDub- Do you know who was the highest ranking official holding elected office that came out in favor of same-gender marriage? At a time when everyone, including Obama, was very cautious in how they phrased any response!

I have no idea....but im not sure how that's relevant....I didnt say Pete was a good candidate because he's gay? who cares one way or another...

[dolomite]

A lack of a competent candidates in the two parties would guarantee………..

the mess we're in

What Biden policies do you have a problem with?

A while back I posted about Biden and some things he’s done that pissed me off.
I’ll go back and look it up and probably not be surprised to find even more.

[zsn]

TDub- Do you know who was the highest ranking official holding elected office that came out in favor of same-gender marriage? At a time when everyone, including Obama, was very cautious in how they phrased any response!

I have no idea....but im not sure how that's relevant....I didnt say Pete was a good candidate because he's gay? who cares one way or another...

It’s relevant because it’s someone you accuse of being unaccomplished and not bold among other things.

It was Joe Biden, when he was VP.

[TDub]

TDub- Do you know who was the highest ranking official holding elected office that came out in favor of same-gender marriage? At a time when everyone, including Obama, was very cautious in how they phrased any response!

I have no idea....but im not sure how that's relevant....I didnt say Pete was a good candidate because he's gay? who cares one way or another...

It’s relevant because it’s someone you accuse of being unaccomplished and not bold among other things.

It was Joe Biden, when he was VP.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... e-epiphany


this Joe Biden? the one who voted against gay marriage previously?





also...again its not relevant to the discussion we were having. But you do you.

[Shirley]

I have no idea....but im not sure how that's relevant....I didnt say Pete was a good candidate because he's gay? who cares one way or another...

It’s relevant because it’s someone you accuse of being unaccomplished and not bold among other things.

It was Joe Biden, when he was VP.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... e-epiphany

this Joe Biden? the one who voted against gay marriage previously?

also...again its not relevant to the discussion we were having. But you do you.

Which does nothing to change the fact that even now in 2023, republicans prove every day that there is no already-disadvantaged strata of society, no minority, no "other", be they gay, trans, Jew, Latino, Muslim, female, etc., etc., etc., that they aren't more than willing to objectify and attempt to make their already difficult lives harder, if it will gain them traction with aggrieved white bigots and benefit the already filthy rich members of our society.

Aren't we proud?

What a fucking country!

But, then again, Joe is old.

[TDub]

It’s relevant because it’s someone you accuse of being unaccomplished and not bold among other things.

It was Joe Biden, when he was VP.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... e-epiphany

this Joe Biden? the one who voted against gay marriage previously?

also...again its not relevant to the discussion we were having. But you do you.

Which does nothing to change the fact that even now in 2023, republicans prove every day that there is no already-disadvantaged strata of society, no minority, no "other", be they gay, trans, Jew, Latino, Muslim, female, etc., etc., etc., that they aren't more than willing to objectify and attempt to make their already difficult lives harder, if it will gain them traction with aggrieved white bigots and benefit the already filthy rich members of our society.

Aren't we proud?

What a fucking country!

But, then again, Joe is old.

I mustve missed the part where I was promoting a current republican option.

This is why I get so frustrated with any of this stuff. Nobody can say anything remotely negative about anybody on your team (applies to both teams) without everybody popping up saying yea..well they do this, they did this, you want those guys?


No. No I don't. But I also think it's not unreasonable to point out that Biden is not the infallible, heroic figure that many of you are trying to will him to be.


also, thisnall stemmed from you asking me if not Joe then who? to which I answered i dont know is have to do more research but, at a minimum Pete would be better.....somehow that turned into.......this wonderful string of posts.



Refer back to my previous comments about zsn. rinse and repeat.