The Deep State

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jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:14 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:13 am It made me skeptical too. Forcing a trial medicine on a global scale to react to a virus that posed no threat to most is madness

That's a script out of a nazi holocaust type movie
Vaccines aren't medicines.
Medical treatment. Ignore the point, argue semantics. All you know how to do
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lollllllllllll
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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Dear Randy, stop being so egocentric. What makes you think anyone cares about you enough to want to "control" you?

Answer: They don't. So, get over yourself, you're just not that important.

Try to visualize your life without your, (and Psych's), need to feel victimized and under siege, as if someone is out there trying to "get you", snowflake.

Why? Because no one gives a fuck about you enough to waste their time.

Also, be good to yourself for a change, and take a load off. From what I can tell, you could use it.

Remember: “He who suffers before it is necessary suffers more than is necessary.”
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randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:15 am
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:14 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:13 am It made me skeptical too. Forcing a trial medicine on a global scale to react to a virus that posed no threat to most is madness

That's a script out of a nazi holocaust type movie
Vaccines aren't medicines.
Medical treatment. Ignore the point, argue semantics. All you know how to do
Vaccines aren’t treatment, either.

And the differences aren’t semantical, because they give away a disqualifying lack of basic understanding of what you’re pretending to know anything about.

Same as how you won’t stop blathering about masks not stopping the wearer from getting Covid, or vaccines not stopping the spread of Covid.

You (proudly) don’t know how even the basic parts of this work. And because of that, nothing you say about this has any weight.
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randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:15 am And it a virus the affects different people differently. A treatment that affects people differently.

Why the fuck would you find it logical to make one collective action to apply to everyone??? Lollll
You people don't understand how big numbers work. Not everything in this world is bespoke. Not everything in this world is about you, personally. You melty snowflake.
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randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:05 am
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:16 am Randy and his ilk are excellent examples of just how soft and spoiled we’ve become.
Backwards. Randy as his ilk just want to be left alone. Most people that want to wear masks or get vaccinated will do that. Or will stay home


Only liberals demand that others get vaccinated and wear masks and stay home
If you want to be left alone while living in a community then do not leave your house/property. That is your right.

If you choose to go out into the community outside of your property then as a member of said community, you agree to adhere to the agreed upon rules and laws, even if you were not in support of them being created.

Sorry, but you are not special. You don't get to enjoy all of the positives of your community but choose which rules of that community you choose to adhere to. If the rules of your community are annoying to you, there are means to which you can address them. Or you can move to a location outside of any established community. As a resident of the US, there are still plenty of options available for that.
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jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:39 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:15 am
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:14 am

Vaccines aren't medicines.
Medical treatment. Ignore the point, argue semantics. All you know how to do
Vaccines aren’t treatment, either.

And the differences aren’t semantical, because they give away a disqualifying lack of basic understanding of what you’re pretending to know anything about.

Same as how you won’t stop blathering about masks not stopping the wearer from getting Covid, or vaccines not stopping the spread of Covid.

You (proudly) don’t know how even the basic parts of this work. And because of that, nothing you say about this has any weight.
yet, he continues to shout loud and proud
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
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I remember reading, in connection with the Titan submarine thing, that the people on board ceased being biology, and became physics.

Similarly, viral diseases are not just medical problems, they're math problems. And snowflakes who refused to wear masks because they did not feel masking protected them, personally, don't understand the math problem (in ADDITION to not understanding the medical problem).
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“We are living through a revolt against the future. The future will prevail.”
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randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:15 am And it a virus the affects different people differently. A treatment that affects people differently.

Why the fuck would you find it logical to make one collective action to apply to everyone??? Lollll
The concept of a vaccine as an available preventative for a percentage is not new or complicated. The concept that a vaccine as a tool to help reduce the severity of the virus if you do still contract it is also not new or complicated. They have been proven out over time to be very effective measures to help combat these types of things to minimize the impact of them on our society.

Since you're all about being as minimally impacted by things, I don't see how you don't understand that. Unless you're just choosing not to see it because it is counter to your lame arguments.
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twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:55 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:15 am And it a virus the affects different people differently. A treatment that affects people differently.

Why the fuck would you find it logical to make one collective action to apply to everyone??? Lollll
The concept of a vaccine as an available preventative for a percentage is not new or complicated. The concept that a vaccine as a tool to help reduce the severity of the virus if you do still contract it is also not new or complicated. They have been proven out over time to be very effective measures to help combat these types of things to minimize the impact of them on our society.

Since you're all about being as minimally impacted by things, I don't see how you don't understand that. Unless you're just choosing not to see it because it is counter to your lame arguments.
Think about all the sacrifices made by so many Americans in the 1700s, 1800s and 1900s, all so that we could get to a place where we are so spoiled and so soft that 1/3 of us threw temper tantrums over wearing a goddamn cloth mask.
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jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:58 am
twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:55 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:15 am And it a virus the affects different people differently. A treatment that affects people differently.

Why the fuck would you find it logical to make one collective action to apply to everyone??? Lollll
The concept of a vaccine as an available preventative for a percentage is not new or complicated. The concept that a vaccine as a tool to help reduce the severity of the virus if you do still contract it is also not new or complicated. They have been proven out over time to be very effective measures to help combat these types of things to minimize the impact of them on our society.

Since you're all about being as minimally impacted by things, I don't see how you don't understand that. Unless you're just choosing not to see it because it is counter to your lame arguments.
Think about all the sacrifices made by so many Americans in the 1700s, 1800s and 1900s, all so that we could get to a place where we are so spoiled and so soft that 1/3 of us threw temper tantrums over wearing a goddamn cloth mask.
If their response to something they feel is even a mild inconvenience that they don't want to do is so insane, I wonder what all these "Patriots" would do if we ever had to reinstitute the draft and they were forced to serve their country in the military?
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twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:50 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:05 am
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:16 am Randy and his ilk are excellent examples of just how soft and spoiled we’ve become.
Backwards. Randy as his ilk just want to be left alone. Most people that want to wear masks or get vaccinated will do that. Or will stay home


Only liberals demand that others get vaccinated and wear masks and stay home
If you want to be left alone while living in a community then do not leave your house/property. That is your right.

If you choose to go out into the community outside of your property then as a member of said community, you agree to adhere to the agreed upon rules and laws, even if you were not in support of them being created.

Sorry, but you are not special. You don't get to enjoy all of the positives of your community but choose which rules of that community you choose to adhere to. If the rules of your community are annoying to you, there are means to which you can address them. Or you can move to a location outside of any established community. As a resident of the US, there are still plenty of options available for that.
When half the population has a problem with it, the rules are not agreed upon. Just cause some dipshit in office suggests something, doesn't mean it's necessary or everyone's best bet
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jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:39 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:15 am
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:14 am

Vaccines aren't medicines.
Medical treatment. Ignore the point, argue semantics. All you know how to do
Vaccines aren’t treatment, either.

And the differences aren’t semantical, because they give away a disqualifying lack of basic understanding of what you’re pretending to know anything about.

Same as how you won’t stop blathering about masks not stopping the wearer from getting Covid, or vaccines not stopping the spread of Covid.

You (proudly) don’t know how even the basic parts of this work. And because of that, nothing you say about this has any weight.
Medical experiment. Is the only accurate label for the covid vaccine that was rushed out
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randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:01 am
twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:50 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:05 am

Backwards. Randy as his ilk just want to be left alone. Most people that want to wear masks or get vaccinated will do that. Or will stay home


Only liberals demand that others get vaccinated and wear masks and stay home
If you want to be left alone while living in a community then do not leave your house/property. That is your right.

If you choose to go out into the community outside of your property then as a member of said community, you agree to adhere to the agreed upon rules and laws, even if you were not in support of them being created.

Sorry, but you are not special. You don't get to enjoy all of the positives of your community but choose which rules of that community you choose to adhere to. If the rules of your community are annoying to you, there are means to which you can address them. Or you can move to a location outside of any established community. As a resident of the US, there are still plenty of options available for that.
When half the population has a problem with it, the rules are not agreed upon. Just cause some dipshit in office suggests something, doesn't mean it's necessary or everyone's best bet
"Some dipshit in office".

Are you referring to politicians who make decisions based on the best available advice from experts in their field? Or of the Experts themselves?
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randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:03 am
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:39 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:15 am

Medical treatment. Ignore the point, argue semantics. All you know how to do
Vaccines aren’t treatment, either.

And the differences aren’t semantical, because they give away a disqualifying lack of basic understanding of what you’re pretending to know anything about.

Same as how you won’t stop blathering about masks not stopping the wearer from getting Covid, or vaccines not stopping the spread of Covid.

You (proudly) don’t know how even the basic parts of this work. And because of that, nothing you say about this has any weight.
Medical experiment. Is the only accurate label for the covid vaccine that was rushed out
Rushed out, to try to stop the virus that we didn't know much about from killing half of the country?

I suppose we should have looked harder at the "tried and true" leeches method.
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Overlander wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:07 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:01 am
twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:50 am
If you want to be left alone while living in a community then do not leave your house/property. That is your right.

If you choose to go out into the community outside of your property then as a member of said community, you agree to adhere to the agreed upon rules and laws, even if you were not in support of them being created.

Sorry, but you are not special. You don't get to enjoy all of the positives of your community but choose which rules of that community you choose to adhere to. If the rules of your community are annoying to you, there are means to which you can address them. Or you can move to a location outside of any established community. As a resident of the US, there are still plenty of options available for that.
When half the population has a problem with it, the rules are not agreed upon. Just cause some dipshit in office suggests something, doesn't mean it's necessary or everyone's best bet
"Some dipshit in office".

Are you referring to politicians who make decisions based on the best available advice from experts in their field? Or of the Experts themselves?
Evidence based? None of the decisions made to shut things down and force masking was evidence based. It actually ignored basic epidemiology.

Most people had covid, once younhad covid the natural defense your immune system built was far more effective than any mask or vaccine
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randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:01 am
twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:50 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:05 am

Backwards. Randy as his ilk just want to be left alone. Most people that want to wear masks or get vaccinated will do that. Or will stay home


Only liberals demand that others get vaccinated and wear masks and stay home
If you want to be left alone while living in a community then do not leave your house/property. That is your right.

If you choose to go out into the community outside of your property then as a member of said community, you agree to adhere to the agreed upon rules and laws, even if you were not in support of them being created.

Sorry, but you are not special. You don't get to enjoy all of the positives of your community but choose which rules of that community you choose to adhere to. If the rules of your community are annoying to you, there are means to which you can address them. Or you can move to a location outside of any established community. As a resident of the US, there are still plenty of options available for that.
When half the population has a problem with it, the rules are not agreed upon. Just cause some dipshit in office suggests something, doesn't mean it's necessary or everyone's best bet
Half the population didn't have a problem with it. You just made that up to support your argument.
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Overlander wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:09 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:03 am
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:39 am

Vaccines aren’t treatment, either.

And the differences aren’t semantical, because they give away a disqualifying lack of basic understanding of what you’re pretending to know anything about.

Same as how you won’t stop blathering about masks not stopping the wearer from getting Covid, or vaccines not stopping the spread of Covid.

You (proudly) don’t know how even the basic parts of this work. And because of that, nothing you say about this has any weight.
Medical experiment. Is the only accurate label for the covid vaccine that was rushed out
Rushed out, to try to stop the virus that we didn't know much about from killing half of the country?

I suppose we should have looked harder at the "tried and true" leeches method.
So the virus that had a fatality rate of maybe 1 percent was killing half the country???

Lollllll

(Also about 90 percent of the deaths, the 1 percent fatality rate, were people with other underlying conditions, so really it was more like a fatality rate of .1 percent)
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randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:10 am
Overlander wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:07 am
randylahey wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:01 am

When half the population has a problem with it, the rules are not agreed upon. Just cause some dipshit in office suggests something, doesn't mean it's necessary or everyone's best bet
"Some dipshit in office".

Are you referring to politicians who make decisions based on the best available advice from experts in their field? Or of the Experts themselves?
Evidence based? None of the decisions made to shut things down and force masking was evidence based. It actually ignored basic epidemiology.

Most people had covid, once younhad covid the natural defense your immune system built was far more effective than any mask or vaccine
I suppose I should listen to you, clearly an expert in the field.

I will let my wife know that her advanced degree in Microbiology has been one upped by a fry salter.
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