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Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:38 am
by twocoach
twocoach wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:48 am
jfish26 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:41 am
KUTradition wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:03 am
i’m not so sure he knows

he continues to tout recruiting and draft success, and seems to just hope that wins follow
I think it's also fair to question whether what we're seeing is a loss of program-based competitive edge in this new world; in a world inching its way toward direct-pay, I don't think it would be surprising to see the bluebloods' inherent institutional advantages being somewhat weakened (the barriers to competition for talent being lower).

And that's to say nothing of another question that is fair to ask - are shoe companies losing their edge now that players can be paid above the table?
Well see. If Nike and Adidas lose a chunk of market share to some smaller companies who can now get into scooping up younger players now that the barrier of needing an established network of runners and high school AAU programs to get to these young players has been eliminated then the answer is yes.
Speaking of....

https://www.reuters.com/business/retail ... 024-03-21/

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:51 am
by KUTradition
jfish26 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:25 am
DeletedUser wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:22 am If I am getting 750k a year to play a college sport I wouldn't give a shit about the dorms because I'd be renting a sweet ass house anyway.
Yep. And if I'm spending $750k on a player, I wouldn't ALSO give money for new dorms. Two sides of the same coin.
except what’s stopping schools with the money from doing both?

it would seem short-sighted and a bit naive to think the level of “spend” we’re seeing now being anything close to where this might end up going

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:57 am
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:51 am
jfish26 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:25 am
DeletedUser wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:22 am If I am getting 750k a year to play a college sport I wouldn't give a shit about the dorms because I'd be renting a sweet ass house anyway.
Yep. And if I'm spending $750k on a player, I wouldn't ALSO give money for new dorms. Two sides of the same coin.
except what’s stopping schools with the money from doing both?

it would seem short-sighted and a bit naive to think the level of “spend” we’re seeing now being anything close to where this might end up going
I tend to think of this stuff from a macro standpoint. At some point revenue and expense need to balance. Obviously part of the task is to grow the revenue (the pie) so that each piece is bigger. There are only so many ways to do that that do not involve diverting general funds.

To me, there is very clearly room on the expense side for coach, administrator and other “white collar” type compensation to be reduced.

If this is going to look more and more like pro sports…go find me a pro sport where a head coach or GM makes more than the entire roster combined.

I want to pause to add - there are reasonable “blech” reactions to all of this. Not intending to say any of this is good or bad. But it’s what it is, and this is the direction.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:03 pm
by MICHHAWK
we are KANSAS. we have guys on our roster. who in this bold new world. should not be making more than minimum wage/league minimum. by "bold new world" standards. if they are making anything at all.

i would love to know how much nil we are paying some of our "scrubs." scrubs by KU standards

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:08 pm
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:03 pm we are KANSAS. we have guys on our roster. who in this bold new world. should not be making more than minimum wage/league minimum. by "bold new world" standards. if they are making anything at all.

i would love to know how much nil we are paying some of our "scrubs." scrubs by KU standards
You writing the checks? If not, what do you care if a guy is getting $500 from Pyramid or $500,000 from Pizza Hut?

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:24 pm
by MICHHAWK
i don't have to be writing the checks to be curious. i don't have to be writing the checks to have thoughts. i don't have to be writing the checks to have an opinion.

i don't have to be writing the checks to have an opinion on how the lions spend. do you have to be writing the checks to have your opinions on the chiefs.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:26 pm
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:24 pm i don't have to be writing the checks to be curious. i don't have to be writing the checks to have thoughts. i don't have to be writing the checks to have an opinion.

i don't have to be writing the checks to have an opinion on how the lions spend. do you have to be writing the checks to have your opinion on the chiefs.
If and when there is a cap (or something along those lines, where what one player gets matters), I’ll care. But that’s not the case, at least at the moment.

What do you care, for example, what the Lions’ assistant coaches make?

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:28 pm
by pdub
Isn't Gutter a Northwestern fan?
Barnhizer sends it to OT.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:37 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
pdub wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:28 pm Isn't Gutter a Northwestern fan?
Barnhizer sends it to OT.
Indeed! Boo Buie was brutal the last 4 minutes of regulation. Team had onions in OT.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:38 pm
by pdub
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:37 pm
pdub wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:28 pm Isn't Gutter a Northwestern fan?
Barnhizer sends it to OT.
Indeed! Boo Buie was brutal the last 4 minutes of regulation. Team had onions in OT.
Buie's shot clock beater in OT was chef's kiss.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:41 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
pdub wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:38 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:37 pm
pdub wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:28 pm Isn't Gutter a Northwestern fan?
Barnhizer sends it to OT.
Indeed! Boo Buie was brutal the last 4 minutes of regulation. Team had onions in OT.
Buie's shot clock beater in OT was chef's kiss.
;)

I've enjoyed this announcing crew.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:44 pm
by twocoach
No real upsets cooking up yet today. Bummer.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:47 pm
by pdub
Uh, Western Kentucky?

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:57 pm
by twocoach
pdub wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:47 pm Uh, Western Kentucky?
They went on a 24-8 run after I typed that. This is much better.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:13 pm
by KUTradition
i’m a lobo today

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:24 pm
by twocoach
https://x.com/WildcatsTongue/status/177 ... sAVuw&s=09

For the "Calipari is a great Xs and Os coach" crowd.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:29 pm
by KUTradition
twocoach wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:24 pm https://x.com/WildcatsTongue/status/177 ... sAVuw&s=09

For the "Calipari is a great Xs and Os coach" crowd.
lmao

he’s not wrong

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:36 pm
by pdub

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:40 pm
by MICHHAWK
the lobo kept it interesting until the first tv timeout.

Re: NCAA Tournament 2024

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:23 pm
by twocoach
KUTradition wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:29 pm
twocoach wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:24 pm https://x.com/WildcatsTongue/status/177 ... sAVuw&s=09

For the "Calipari is a great Xs and Os coach" crowd.
lmao

he’s not wrong
Yeah, who knows if the techniques he is yelling about are truly the right call in those situations but there seemed to be a lot of situations where UK just didn't know how to handle screens and left far too much space. They have been giving up tons of points all season, even if they managed to outscore their opponent.