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Yeah, the biggest Self-era “what if,” no pun intended, is prob if Sherron kept it under 2 bills.
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And yeah Julian was a freak.

What if he practiced his jumper and handles as much as he practiced his trick shots and highlight dunks?
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Julian was the best player on the court in a game that had Al Horford, Joakim Noah, and Corey Brewer in it. I recall after that game he was projected as high as 3rd behind Oden and Durant. I'm sure both he and Sherron would go back and do a few things differently.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:36 pm Julian was the best player on the court in a game that had Al Horford, Joakim Noah, and Corey Brewer in it. I recall after that game he was projected as high as 3rd behind Oden and Durant. I'm sure both he and Sherron would go back and do a few things differently.
Julian was ahead of his time, honestly.
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NewtonHawk11 wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:03 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:36 pm Julian was the best player on the court in a game that had Al Horford, Joakim Noah, and Corey Brewer in it. I recall after that game he was projected as high as 3rd behind Oden and Durant. I'm sure both he and Sherron would go back and do a few things differently.
Julian was ahead of his time, honestly.
Inarguably so.

Josh Jackson isn't exactly setting the NBA on fire and had his share of issues, but he could play for a decade plus in this NBA. Julian's ceiling was a bit higher to me.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:11 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:03 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:36 pm Julian was the best player on the court in a game that had Al Horford, Joakim Noah, and Corey Brewer in it. I recall after that game he was projected as high as 3rd behind Oden and Durant. I'm sure both he and Sherron would go back and do a few things differently.
Julian was ahead of his time, honestly.
Inarguably so.

Josh Jackson isn't exactly setting the NBA on fire and had his share of issues, but he could play for a decade plus in this NBA. Julian's ceiling was a bit higher to me.
Julian with Josh's attitude would have been...a max guy.
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Julian was not a very good shooter.
And I know nor is/was Ben Simmons but Ben Simmons is a far better player than Julian.
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Durant did an interview a couple years back, during his run with the Warriors, and even admitted Julian Wright was the hardest defender he had to score on.

He was never my favorite player on the KU teams he played on, but its still odd he didn't stick a bit longer in the NBA. So much potential with all the different skills he had, problem was other than athleticism, he never really got above average at any of them.
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He was also a bit of a guy who focused on stuff outside of basketball more than the game.
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Julian was also bat shit crazy with religion
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Julian's problem was at the NBA level he wasn't good at anything. he was decent at everything. but he was a forward with guard skills but no jump shot. he played right before small ball took over. he spent too much time bowling and dunking and never really refined the areas of his game to carve out a niche in the nba
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He was 6’8” with wingspan and athletic as eff, but also sort of a tweener.

He didn’t have the strength or build to play as a true big, nor did he have the J or handles to be a wing.

And he was naturally talented enough to go lotto as a sophomore, but the NBA requires skills to stick around.

In that book (Beyond the Phog?), Mario talks about how Julian was a gym rat but in all the wrong ways.

He’d train for hours, but instead of training fundamentals, he’d practice trick shots and fancy dunks and just kinda goof around.
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Seniors Dok and Vonte most recently come to mind with big away games against the B12 challenger...can Ochai follow suit?
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Sporting News 1st Team AA, one of the 4 for consensus.

Never understood why some thought he won’t end up consensus First Team.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-ba ... 74un7uv03j
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He's currently 22nd all time in points scored for KU.
120 more points ( reasonable ) would put him 15th all time.
1st team AA, B12POY, 15th all time scorer - well, that kcrim25 might need a revisit.

Sorry Wayne Hightower.
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nu_bronco wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:46 am Och first team all American

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... first-team
Akinjo 3rd team?

Fully acknowledging the color of my glasses, but (per-40s and rates):

Player A

16.4 ppg / 3.4 rpg / 6.9 apg / 2.5 spg+bpg

.389 / .299 / .825

Player B

17.1 / 7.5 / 3.1 / 2.2

.503 / .377 / .748

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I suppose this is good news for Player B's trajectory, but man.
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Sporting News + AP will be good enough to make Och consensus first team.
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CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:59 am Sporting News + AP will be good enough to make Och consensus first team.
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