Och senior year

[jhawks99]

We may need to start a second row or build the new Olathe Fieldhouse with a bigger wall.

[twocoach]

Its like how we quit hanging individual big 12 title banners, let's quit hanging individual jerseys. Maybe honor them by having a bunch listed on a few banners like what we do with big 12 titles

They combined the conference titles not because they are less important but because they are too numerous. At some point, they will run out of room and create one for each jersey number: a #0 with Robinson and Mason listed under it, a #13 with Wilt and Walt Wesley listed, etc..

[MICHHAWK]

Lets save the jersey retirement for the wilt, danny etc types. Guys that truly left a lasting mark on the program, and should be remembered for the decades to come.

Not guys that will be replaced by someone just as good in the next year or 2

this is 100% correct. that last sentence perfectly describes what we have doing these last 20 years.

the athletic department has gotten drunk with retiring jerseys.

[jfish26]

Lets save the jersey retirement for the wilt, danny etc types. Guys that truly left a lasting mark on the program, and should be remembered for the decades to come.

Not guys that will be replaced by someone just as good in the next year or 2

this is 100% correct. that last sentence perfectly describes what we have doing these last 20 years.

the athletic department has gotten drunk with retiring jerseys.

(It is here that we should point out that no jerseys are really retired, and it would be fine with me to actually retire the highest level, perhaps NPOY and/or FF MOP.)

[jhawks99]

Mich is right, we should get guys that aren't as good.

[PhDhawk]

Mich is right, we should get guys that aren't as good.

I know I'm tired of 30 win seasons and 1 seeds.

[twocoach]

Lets save the jersey retirement for the wilt, danny etc types. Guys that truly left a lasting mark on the program, and should be remembered for the decades to come.

Not guys that will be replaced by someone just as good in the next year or 2

this is 100% correct. that last sentence perfectly describes what we have doing these last 20 years.

the athletic department has gotten drunk with retiring jerseys.

They are honoring player accomplishments, not retiring jerseys. It has zero effect other than to impress recruits and spur nostalgia from fans. Bitching about it just seems grumpy.

Should it surprise anyone that the era of the most consistent high-level of success in ncaa history is churning out a consistent list of guys who have earned the right to be honored?

[jhawks99]

Lets save the jersey retirement for the wilt, danny etc types. Guys that truly left a lasting mark on the program, and should be remembered for the decades to come.

Not guys that will be replaced by someone just as good in the next year or 2

this is 100% correct. that last sentence perfectly describes what we have doing these last 20 years.

the athletic department has gotten drunk with retiring jerseys.

They are honoring player accomplishments, not retiring jerseys. It has zero effect other than to impress recruits and spur nostalgia from fans. Bitching about it just seems grumpy.

Should it surprise anyone that the era of the most consistent high-level of success in ncaa history is churning out a consistent list of guys who have earned the right to be honored?

The folks don't like it.

[twocoach]

this is 100% correct. that last sentence perfectly describes what we have doing these last 20 years.

the athletic department has gotten drunk with retiring jerseys.

They are honoring player accomplishments, not retiring jerseys. It has zero effect other than to impress recruits and spur nostalgia from fans. Bitching about it just seems grumpy.

Should it surprise anyone that the era of the most consistent high-level of success in ncaa history is churning out a consistent list of guys who have earned the right to be honored?

The folks don't like it.

Some folks just don't like things to be different than "back when they were young". I mean, if we really want to roll back to the 1961-1983 era when KU missed the tourney 16 times, sure. At least there wouldn't be so darn many players getting their jerseys honored...

[jfish26]

Lets save the jersey retirement for the wilt, danny etc types. Guys that truly left a lasting mark on the program, and should be remembered for the decades to come.

Not guys that will be replaced by someone just as good in the next year or 2

this is 100% correct. that last sentence perfectly describes what we have doing these last 20 years.

the athletic department has gotten drunk with retiring jerseys.

They are honoring player accomplishments, not retiring jerseys. It has zero effect other than to impress recruits and spur nostalgia from fans. Bitching about it just seems grumpy.

Should it surprise anyone that the era of the most consistent high-level of success in ncaa history is churning out a consistent list of guys who have earned the right to be honored?

Realistically, we all know that we're on borrowed time here. Replacing Roy and getting better is fucking absurd.

I don't think we'll bottom out like Indiana or UCLA did, but I think it's overwhelmingly likely that we will have some meaningful step back, at least in terms of being consistently very-good-to-great. Our FLOOR under Bill has been a 4-seed. That won't hold.

I, for one, look forward to one day explaining to my kids and grandkids why there are, like, 30 banners for the period from 1988-2030, and then a huge dropoff.

[twocoach]

this is 100% correct. that last sentence perfectly describes what we have doing these last 20 years.

the athletic department has gotten drunk with retiring jerseys.

They are honoring player accomplishments, not retiring jerseys. It has zero effect other than to impress recruits and spur nostalgia from fans. Bitching about it just seems grumpy.

Should it surprise anyone that the era of the most consistent high-level of success in ncaa history is churning out a consistent list of guys who have earned the right to be honored?

Realistically, we all know that we're on borrowed time here. Replacing Roy and getting better is fucking absurd.

I don't think we'll bottom out like Indiana or UCLA did, but I think it's overwhelmingly likely that we will have some meaningful step back, at least in terms of being consistently very-good-to-great. Our FLOOR under Bill has been a 4-seed. That won't hold.

I, for one, look forward to one day explaining to my kids and grandkids why there are, like, 30 banners for the period from 1988-2030, and then a huge dropoff.

Agreed. My daughter is 18 and KU has NEVER been seeded below a 4 seed in the tourney in her entire lifetime. It is unprecedented in modern ncaa history. Of course that means that we have more players who are achieving at a high level.

This was not the argument I thought we'd be having today. Weird day.

[PhDhawk]

No one has ever filled out an online ncaa bracket that didn't have Kansas on it.

[KUTradition]

No one has ever filled out an online ncaa bracket that didn't have Kansas on it.

now that’s just nuts

[InfiniteJ]

No one has ever filled out an online ncaa bracket that didn't have Kansas on it.

This is great.

[Deleted User 863]

This thread is supposed to be about Ochai Agbaji's senior season.

Ridiculous.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

No one has ever filled out an online ncaa bracket that didn't have Kansas on it.

I assume that has to be true.

I think someone else may have posted this but if not.....

Bill Self is coaching his 21st straight NCAA Tournament as a No. 4 seed or better.

My guess is no one else will ever claim that.

[CrimsonNBlue]

No one has ever filled out an online ncaa bracket that didn't have Kansas on it.

Missouri basketball fan tradition for 30+ years: picking KU to lose in the first round every single year.

[pdub]

No one has ever filled out an online ncaa bracket that didn't have Kansas on it.

Missouri basketball fan tradition for 30+ years: picking KU to lose in the first round every single year.

Lol.
The Mizzou guy at a place I freelance for has us loosing to San Diego St.

[sdoyel]

Since the missed game due to Covid Och is shooting 30% from 3. Not horrible, not great. But that’s NOT a small sample size.

CB is like 1/2% behind Och in 3pt %. CB needs to be shooting it more…

[twocoach]

No one has ever filled out an online ncaa bracket that didn't have Kansas on it.

I assume that has to be true.

I think someone else may have posted this but if not.....

Bill Self is coaching his 21st straight NCAA Tournament as a No. 4 seed or better.

My guess is no one else will ever claim that.

Very few coaches will ever have 21 straight ncaa tournament appearances, let alone Top 4 seeds. Coach K's longest streak of Top 4 seeds was 12. Roy Williams' was 5. Dean Smith's was 11. Tom Izzo's was 4.