Robert f Kennedy jr

[KUTradition]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/13/politics ... index.html

Yeah, it's just the media wanting to portray him as a kook and not that he's an actual kook and it's being pointed out by the media.... OK.

“I want to just pursue just one question on these, you know, the other endocrine disruptors because our children now, you know, we’re seeing these impacts that people suspect are very different than in ages past about sexual identification among children and sexual confusion, gender confusion,” Kennedy said on his podcast in June last year. “These kinds of issues that are very, very controversial today.”

They aren't controversial. They are non-existent outside of kook circles.

there is actually some emerging data suggesting that some microplastics can affect hormone levels

(but that’s obviously irrespective of vaccines)

"Some" and "affect" being very generic, subjective words that would need to be expanded on greatly.

agreed

this data is also from a mouse model, so while troubling, it isn’t necessarily indicative of the same impact in humans

[twocoach]

there is actually some emerging data suggesting that some microplastics can affect hormone levels

(but that’s obviously irrespective of vaccines)

"Some" and "affect" being very generic, subjective words that would need to be expanded on greatly.

agreed

this data is also from a mouse model, so while troubling, it isn’t necessarily indicative of the same impact in humans

Yep. Like I said "can affect" is way different than "can result in a person feeling that they should be an entirely different gender than that to which they were born". But in today's world and the desire of some to jump to quick all or nothing assumptions to try to win a battle of social media meme arguments, here we are.

[KUTradition]

"Some" and "affect" being very generic, subjective words that would need to be expanded on greatly.

agreed

this data is also from a mouse model, so while troubling, it isn’t necessarily indicative of the same impact in humans

Yep. Like I said "can affect" is way different than "can result in a person feeling that they should be an entirely different gender than that to which they were born". But in today's world and the desire of some to jump to quick all or nothing assumptions to try to win a battle of social media meme arguments, here we are.

https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advo ... man-health

[jfish26]

Better California than Florida.

Seems as if many people disagree with you, given that Florida's population is up for the eleventh consecutive year and California's is down for the third year in a row.

Yeah ok.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/farmers-in ... 00-people/

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-combat ... ge-1793928

Like I've said: the bill for getting high on culture war nonsense (very much including utter denial over climate change) is coming due. And it's gonna sting.

[Mjl]

What makes RFK a Dem?

[twocoach]

agreed

this data is also from a mouse model, so while troubling, it isn’t necessarily indicative of the same impact in humans

Yep. Like I said "can affect" is way different than "can result in a person feeling that they should be an entirely different gender than that to which they were born". But in today's world and the desire of some to jump to quick all or nothing assumptions to try to win a battle of social media meme arguments, here we are.

https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advo ... man-health

Interesting read, that's for sharing. Yes, I fully believe that we are all being slowly poisoned at some level by the food and water we consume, the air we breathe and the ground we walk and live on. The amount of non-natural chemicals we are creating is mind boggling. It's why I feel so strongly that one of the worst things about another Trump administration would be his continued assault on the EPA and other measures designed to monitor and regulate the oil and natural gas industries and more specifically, their waste, since nearly all plastics contain some form of petroleum/natural gas byproduct.

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php? ... 20refining.

[twocoach]

What makes RFK a Dem?

The same thing that makes Donald Trump a Republican. Perceived opportunity.

[jfish26]

What makes RFK a Dem?

He's no more a Dem than Trump is a Pub. And the theory behind the identification is the same.

(I digress, but...ah...aren't the Pubs typically against matters of self-identification?)

[randylahey]

What makes RFK a Dem?

He aligns with the dems in a lot of ways. Sensible ways. Reasons I used to consider myself a democrat. Like environmental issues

He just doesn't align radical radical leftist ideology that is so important these days, like identity politics, Trans movement. He thinks the intelligence agencies need to be reigned in. That the federal government needs to be held accountable and actually serve the American people. And he's been at war with big pharma corruption for awhile

[KUTradition]

[Mjl]

What makes RFK a Dem?

He aligns with the dems in a lot of ways. Sensible ways. Reasons I used to consider myself a democrat. Like environmental issues

He just doesn't align radical radical leftist ideology that is so important these days, like identity politics, Trans movement. He thinks the intelligence agencies need to be reigned in. That the federal government needs to be held accountable and actually serve the American people. And he's been at war with big pharma corruption for awhile

He tweeted yesterday that environmental issues need to be solved through the free market. That's not the Democrat point of view on the environment.

So, again, what issues does he align with Democrats on?

[randylahey]

What makes RFK a Dem?

He aligns with the dems in a lot of ways. Sensible ways. Reasons I used to consider myself a democrat. Like environmental issues

He just doesn't align radical radical leftist ideology that is so important these days, like identity politics, Trans movement. He thinks the intelligence agencies need to be reigned in. That the federal government needs to be held accountable and actually serve the American people. And he's been at war with big pharma corruption for awhile

He tweeted yesterday that environmental issues need to be solved through the free market. That's not the Democrat point of view on the environment.

So, again, what issues does he align with Democrats on?

The modern democrat left democrat values behind a long time ago. Kennedy is old school. Like I said he doesn't believe in federal government overreach. Which is why they use environmental issues to do

[KUTradition]

https://pewresearch.org/science/2019/11 ... nd-energy/

[Mjl]

When was the Democrat approach to environmental issues for the Government to keep hands off?

That's, like, a defining difference between Republicans and Democrats.

[KUTradition]

randy is working backwards, making shit up to fit his narrative

[Mjl]

To clarify, this makes no sense, but it certainly has never been the Democrat view on the subject
https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/sta ... 87873?s=20

Unless you translate that into "let's do cap and trade". But it seems a stretch to say that's what he meant. And it's still Government doing something.

[jfish26]

randy is working backwards, making shit up to fit his narrative

Randy may not even know that he's being used to amplify pro-Trump messaging on this. The entire point of RFK's joke candidacy is to draw a few percentage points away from Biden.

Why?

Because Trump (and his handlers) know that he doesn't have a shot in 2024, but for trickery.

[twocoach]

When was the Democrat approach to environmental issues for the Government to keep hands off?

That's, like, a defining difference between Republicans and Democrats.

Randy just barfed out a boilerplate answer without even worrying about the fact that he was wrong. He doesn't care.

[twocoach]

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/ ... kennedy-jr

[KUTradition]

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/ ... kennedy-jr

Fact-checking Kennedy’s assertions is like chasing rabbits. This is a good example. The four-trillion dollar figure was likely an estimate for the price of the federal bailout. Many of the five hundred billionaires he seems to refer to rose up in other countries, especially China.